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	<title>Comments on: hunger, poverty, and population growth among digital bugs and humans</title>
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	<description>Because Power concedes Nothing without a Demand</description>
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		<title>By: On Subsistance and Poverty</title>
		<link>http://www.emceelynx.com/2007/10/hunger-poverty-and-population-growth-among-digital-bugs-and-humans/comment-page-1/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>On Subsistance and Poverty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] back to the economic and political issues, this is a follow up to a previous article called &#8220;hunger, poverty, and population growth among digital bugs and humans.&#8221; In the original post I looked at the relationship between wealth and population growth and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] back to the economic and political issues, this is a follow up to a previous article called &#8220;hunger, poverty, and population growth among digital bugs and humans.&#8221; In the original post I looked at the relationship between wealth and population growth and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: On Subsistance and Poverty</title>
		<link>http://www.emceelynx.com/2007/10/hunger-poverty-and-population-growth-among-digital-bugs-and-humans/comment-page-1/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>On Subsistance and Poverty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 03:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] back to the economic and political issues, this is a follow up to a previous article called &#8220;hunger, poverty, and population growth among digital bugs and humans.&#8221;  In the original post I looked at the relationship between wealth and population growth [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] back to the economic and political issues, this is a follow up to a previous article called &#8220;hunger, poverty, and population growth among digital bugs and humans.&#8221;  In the original post I looked at the relationship between wealth and population growth [...]</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://www.emceelynx.com/2007/10/hunger-poverty-and-population-growth-among-digital-bugs-and-humans/comment-page-1/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can avoid being digital bugs in part by reading less of economists&#039; works that assume that we are.  Or, by reading them critically and seeing how the &#039;digital bug&#039; assumption can fail.  It&#039;s true that all populations will grow until they stop growing; the reason that they stop growing may be assigned to internal (&quot;it stopped growing&quot;) or external factors (&quot;it was forced to stop growing&quot;) depending on your point of view.

Populations will stop growing when &quot;resources become scarce&quot; -- which resources and what level of scarcity is adjustable.  Another way to put it is that &quot;populations often won&#039;t grow bigger than their environments can comfortably support&quot;.  Populations that undergo boom-bust cycles aren&#039;t tuned like this, but the vast majority are -- ecosystems are stable.

Naturally evolved ecosystems have a lot of plenty, much of the time -- go take a walk in the woods.  The squirrels are only eating a tiny fraction of the avaliable acorns; when the humans  who lived here (and probably didn&#039;t change a lot) for ten thousand years, there was plenty for them, too.

The competitive view of ecosystem and evolutionary dynamics is part and parcel of the capitalist world view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can avoid being digital bugs in part by reading less of economists&#8217; works that assume that we are.  Or, by reading them critically and seeing how the &#8216;digital bug&#8217; assumption can fail.  It&#8217;s true that all populations will grow until they stop growing; the reason that they stop growing may be assigned to internal (&#8220;it stopped growing&#8221;) or external factors (&#8220;it was forced to stop growing&#8221;) depending on your point of view.</p>
<p>Populations will stop growing when &#8220;resources become scarce&#8221; &#8212; which resources and what level of scarcity is adjustable.  Another way to put it is that &#8220;populations often won&#8217;t grow bigger than their environments can comfortably support&#8221;.  Populations that undergo boom-bust cycles aren&#8217;t tuned like this, but the vast majority are &#8212; ecosystems are stable.</p>
<p>Naturally evolved ecosystems have a lot of plenty, much of the time &#8212; go take a walk in the woods.  The squirrels are only eating a tiny fraction of the avaliable acorns; when the humans  who lived here (and probably didn&#8217;t change a lot) for ten thousand years, there was plenty for them, too.</p>
<p>The competitive view of ecosystem and evolutionary dynamics is part and parcel of the capitalist world view.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://www.emceelynx.com/2007/10/hunger-poverty-and-population-growth-among-digital-bugs-and-humans/comment-page-1/#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 04:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quite liked this essay.  A question comes to mind to ask: is subsistence poverty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quite liked this essay.  A question comes to mind to ask: is subsistence poverty?</p>
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